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Government CAN control hurricanes PostSun Oct 23, 2005 5:02 pm  Reply with quote  

Former Naval Physicist: Government Can Control Hurricanes
Former Vet "Made it Rain" During Vietnam War


Steve Watson & Paul Joseph Watson | 14 Oct 2005

Alex Jones was joined on air yesterday by weather modification expert Ben Livingston.

Livingston discussed in detail proven evidence of hurricane control and his research and experiences with cloud seeding and weather weapons used in the Vietnam war.



Many scoff at the possibility of weather control and simply refuse to believe it exists. Attempting to even engage such people in conversation on the subject is fruitless because their mind is set. Yet the reality is that weather modification has been in operation and continual development since the 1960s.

Livingston, now 77, has a master's degree in cloud physics from the Naval Weapons Center and Navy Post Graduate School in California, a degree he later used in the battlefields.

According to a recent report "He seeded clouds and dramatically increased rainfall in his theater of war, creating impassably muddy roads, slowing down the Vietnamese and Korean troops, and saving lives and entire towns from occupation."

Livingston was even invited to the White House where he briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control activities. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government in the 60s and they had the ability to do it at that time. That was 40 years ago.

He now works with scientists and pilots at Weather Modification Inc., in Fargo, N.D. His research of hurricane control has been confirmed by the Stanford Research Institute.

He has personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes and has gone on record as "most disgusted" with Hurricane Katrina because he knows that the storm itself could have been minimized.

Livingston revealed that to reduce or redirect a category 4 hurricane would not be that difficult:

"A hurricane is made up of energy sails and each of those sails adds to the ferocity of it. It was proven in 1974 by an international project that these energy sails exist and that they are the reason that hurricanes can develop and grow move and cause damages. So there's no reason to attack the hurricane in total but just to fly in to the right front quadrant primarily relative to the direction the storm is moving in and seed those energy sails that are converging and making the rain and wind velocity increase in the front part of a hurricane." Livingston asserted.

He went on to explain exactly how to minimize and control the hurricane:

" We would be trying to destroy or at least grossly reduce the velocity in these individual energy sails by seeding the clouds with silver iodide in the top part of the cloud... and those tops would then have so many small droplets in them that the prevailing wind just blows them away and so an energy sail would be neutralized until it can regroup which may be several hours later."





The seeding process may sound complicated but it is not at all. There would be no need for more than two small aircraft at a time to safely fly upwards into the hurricane.

"We're carrying more cloud seeding material on one airplane now, over 800% more on each plane than we had during Project Storm Fury" (The project set up by the US Government to discover how to control hurricanes in the 60s). Livingston added.

Alex put the question to Livingston, if it is so simple to do and the government knows how to do it and has been doing it since the 60s then why did they not attempt to minimize hurricane Katrina?

"This is a long story with a deep history. Back in the mid 50s, 1954 or so, the government allotted the first amount of money for weather modification and weather control practices to the US weather Bureau to the tune of about 30 million dollars." Livingston said.

"Their charge was to employ the most brilliant scientists around the world, and meteorologists and physicists, to work out a concept for reducing damages from hurricanes. What brought that on was that we had three tremendous hurricanes in 1953 and '54 that affected the twelve northeastern states... Basically The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) was formed to take that responsibility." He went on to say.

Mr Livingston went on to describe how Project "Storm Fury" of which he was a national director was then set up in the mid 60s. Much of the research was carried out on hurricanes in the Atlantic at that time.

Project Storm Fury was shut down on the logic that the data was not good enough to use in statistical studies. Many believe that the research then became part of a black operation on weather modification.

Upon recently writing to verify what the national policy is on hurricane research, Livingston received the following response:

"The approach of NOAA with regard to minimizing the impact of hurricanes on US citizens is to improve our forecast on the tracking and intensity of storms and to better warn those in harm's way. It is no longer the policy of NOAA to support or conduct weather modification research."

So there is effectively no official government budget for weather modification of any kind. This would not however prevent the hiring of private companies such as Weather Modification, Inc. to carry out the relatively simple work for around $25 million for the hurricane season. This is a small amount when considering the billions spent on rebuilding and clearing up after hurricanes.

"The situation is as I see it that the Federal Government and NOAA have a tremendous job to do and they're doing a tremendous job. But their interest is in statistical data...where as people who are concerned about hurricane damages are interested more in results or empirical data." Livingston added.

Dr Livingston went on to read a statement from the Stanford research Institute who were brought into Project Storm Fury in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life.

Livingston revealed that on the 18th August 1969, five seedings at two hour intervals on Hurricane Debbie, researchers deduced that the wind speed had decreased from 115mph to 80 mph. That is a 30% reduction and a 45% reduction in damages. On August 20th a second seeding decreased the wind speed again to just under 100 mph, a reduction of around 15%. Some scientists involved wanted more research and to uncover clearer patterns so they brought in Stanford as a third party, who determined that more seeding should be done for damage reduction.

Of course, during the Vietnam war the goal for Livingston and his colleagues was to actually strengthen adverse weather, to inflate and exacerbate the monsoon season in order that the Vietnamese get bogged down. So not only is prevention possible, but also creation of harsh weather conditions.

Dr Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment.

"My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he commented.

Cloud seeding is the process of spreading either dry ice (or more commonly, silver iodide aerosols) into the upper part of clouds to try to stimulate the precipitation process and form rain. Since most rainfall starts through the growth of ice crystals from super-cooled cloud droplets (droplets colder than the freezing point, 32 deg. F) in the upper parts of clouds, the silver iodide particles are meant to encourage the growth of new ice particles.



Alex went on to ask Dr Livingston whether it was dangerous flying into hurricanes, and whether that was a factor that could have prevented operations going ahead.

"A good part of the time you're out in the most beautiful VFR weather you've ever seen. If it's night you can see the stars, the moon, if it's daytime the sun or whatever. So you can not only see what you're going to seed, you can analyze it on your radar... generally speaking its not very hazardous flying." Livingston answered.

Dr Livingston puts beyond doubt the reality of weather modification. His take on Hurricane Katrina is that it was not prevented for political reasons.
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PostSun Oct 23, 2005 5:20 pm  Reply with quote  

Even before the 1960s

http://worldvisionportal.org/WVPforum/viewforum.php?f=36

1947: Wilhelm Reich handed the US Government a weather control device, a device that would do DOR-busting. DOR = Deadly Orgone Energy. Reich thought that if he could decrease the amount of DOR that storms would not be so violent. (DOR is the result of orgone energy coming into contact with an enclosed radioactive source). The government sent the device up into a storm and it did reduce the intensity of the storm. They worked.

The Montauk Project was a combination of Wilhelm Reich's work and the Philadelphia Experiment. There were two separate projects going on in Phoenix One. You had the invisibility aspect and you had the development of Wilhelm Reich's weather control. Toward the end of the Phoenix project, by using some of Wilhelm Reich's concepts and some of the transmission schemes used from the "radiosonde" project, they found that you could combine the two factors and use them for 'Mind Control'.

1952: W.O. Schumman identifies 7.83 Hertz the resonant frequency of the Earth (now known as the Schumann Resonances).

1958: Van Allen radiation belts are discovered (zones of charged particles trapped in earth's magnetic field) 2,000+ miles up.

1958: Named Project Argus, the U.S. Navy explodes three nuclear bombs inside Van Allen belt.

1958: White House advisor on weather modification says Defense Department studying ways to manipulate charges of 'earth and sky, and so affect the weather'. [Did you know that such a department as "Weather Modification" existed in the White House way back in 1952? The mere existence of such an office strongly implies the technology to modify and control the weather existed.]

1960: A series of weather disasters begin.

1961: Scientists propose artificial ion cloud experiments. In 1960's the dumping of chemicals (barium powder, etc.) from satellites and rockets began.

1961-62: U.S.S.R. and U.S.A. create many electromagnetic pulses (EMPs) in the atmosphere. 300 megatons of nuclear devices deplete ozone layer by about 4%. [Hmm, ozone layer depletion was intentionally created by both Russian and American governments by nuclear detonations? They not only knew about it, they measured the extent of the depletion and the time it lasted. Therefore, do you think it just might be possible that, once again, we have the situation where a dire prediction is made, with the knowledge that their scientists can actually make it happen?]

1962: Launch of Canadian satellites and start of stimulating plasma resonances by antennas within the space plasma.

1966: Gordon J.F. MacDonald publishes military ideas on environmental engineering.

1960's: In Wisconsin, U.S. Navy Project Sanguine lays extremely low frequency (ELF) antennae. [We are told that the Navy needed this ELF capability to communicate with their submarines in a way that would be secure from enemy attack, a claim with which we do not argue. However, it is also possible that this ELF antennae may serve a dual purpose, of also helping to control the weather]

1968: Moscow scientists tell the West that they have pinpointed which pulsed magnetic field frequencies help mental and physiological functions and which frequencies do harm. [This little incident shows the unusual cooperation between Russia and America at the height of the Cold War. Such cooperation constitutes proof of the claim that Russia has cooperated with the Western Powers since the beginning, in 1917.

1972: First reports on 'ionospheric heater' experiments with high frequency radio waves at Arecibo (Alaska). A 100 megawatt heater in Norway built later in the decade can change the conductivity of the auroral ionosphere. [Now, they were getting close to being able to control the weather. When you can manipulate the conductivity of the auroal ionosphere, where weather systems operate and originate, you are close to controlling the weather. Note the date here, at which time this technology was realized: 1972].

1973: Documentation that the launch of Skylab 'halved the total electron content of the ionosphere for three hours' (by rocket exhaust gases).

1974: United Nations General Assembly bans environmental warfare. [You do not need a treaty banning Weather Warfare unless such technology already exists and has been proven effective. This means that this Weather Warfare technology has been fine tuned for at least 30 years].

1974: High frequency experiments at Plattsville (Colorado), Arecibo (Alaska), Puerto Rico, and in Armidale, New South Wales. These experiments heated the bottom side of the ionosphere.

1974: Experiments - airglow brightened by hitting oxygen atoms in ionosphere with accelerated electrons.

1975: Stanford professor Robert Helliwell reports that very low frequency (VLF) from power lines is altering the ionosphere.

1975: U.S. Senator Gaylord Nelson forces the Navy to release research showing that extremely low frequency (ELF) transmissions can altar human blood chemistry. [Once again, this technology begins to hit very close to home. When an enemy can altar your blood chemistry just by aiming ELF transmissions, we can be destroyed with no knowledge of what is happening to us, or who is doing such lethal damage. Can you also sense the possibilty of control of an entire population, without the people ever being aware they are being manipulated?]

1975: U.S. Senator Pell's Senate Subcommittee, urges that weather and climate modification work should be overseen by a civilian agency answerable to the U.S. Congress. This never happened. [Senator Pell urged the United States to sign tes United Nations treaty banning Weather Warfare. It sounds like Pell was very concerned about the use and misuse of this technology].

1975: Soviets begin pulsing 'Woodpecker' extremely low frequency (ELF) waves at key brainwave rhythms. Eugene (Oregon) was one of the locations where Woodpecker was aimed, and where people were particularly affected. [Once, again, it is a shock to discover that an enemy can destroy us either biologically or mentally from a distance, without any of us being aware of it].

1976: Drs. Susan Bawin and W. Ross Adey demonstrate that human nerve cells are affected by ELF fields.

1979: The launch of NASA's third High-Energy Astrophysical Observatory causes large scale, artificially induced depletion in the ionosphere. The plasma hole was caused by 'rapid chemical processes' between rocket exhaust and the ozone layer. The ionosphere was significantly depleted over a horizontal distance of 300 km for some hours.

1985: Bernard J. Eastlund applies for the patent, "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere". [This is the first of three Eastlund patents assigned to ARCO Power Technologies, Inc.]

1986: The U.S. Navy's Project Henhouse duplicates the Delgado (Madrid) experiment - very low level, very low frequency pulsed magnetic fields harm chick embryos.

Late 1980's: In the latter part of the decade, the U.S. begins a network of Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) towers, each to generate Very Low Frequency (VLF) waves. [GWEN towers created a high level electromagnetic (EM) dam in the atmosphere in the American Midwest that created rain for 40 days and nights in 1993. GWEN towers were located right where the rain came down. GWEN towers are also located along the San Andreas fault in California and Nevada where all the earthquakes of the past 3 decades have been occurring].

Late 1980's: Other ARCO Power Technologies Incorporated (APTI) scientists build upon the Eastlund patents for development of new weapon capabilities.

1994: Military contractor E-systems buys APTI, holder of the Eastlund patents, and contracts to build the biggest ionospheric heater in the world: the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Project (HAARP). [Even though construction of HAARP towers in Alaska began before this date, this was the time the decision was made to make it as large as it is now today, with over 40 acres of ELF towers].

1994: Congress freezes the funding on HAARP until planners increase the emphasis on earth penetrating tomography uses, for nuclear counter proliferation efforts.

1995: Congress budgets $10 million for 1996 under "nuclear counterproliferation" efforts for HAARP project. [This confirms that the U.S. Government is in firm control of HAARP].

1994-96: Testing of first stage of HAARP equipment continues.

1996: HAARP planners test the earth penetrating tomography applications by modulating the electroject at ELF frequencies.

1998: Projected date for fully operating HAARP system. [Severe worldwide weather in 1997 and 1998. It is no coincidence that the onset of this unprecedented weather coincided with the completion of the HAARP system. Now, scientists can create and control all types of weather, especially disasters].

2004: An unprecedented 3 hurricanes form within 30 days in the eastern Atlantic and Carribean. Hurricanes Charley and Frances pound Florida sustaining more monetary damages than any previous two storm systems combined. Hurricane Ivan strikes between Mobile Bay (Alabama) and Pensacola (Florida). [Signs that Ivan and Charley were being steered are evident in how they by-passed Jamaica to the south and also headed up to the Gulf of Mexico with little to no landfall of any significance... until hitting Florida].
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One word...One man.

TESLA
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quote:
Originally posted by Mech
One word...One man.

TESLA


Yep, they are using his vegetarian, genius, pacifist's genius mind for horrible things. He only wanted free energy. He died alone with who he considered his only friends......Birds, in his apartment.

Just like Einstein in many ways, who was hunted by the FBI for over 25 years. Crying or Very sad

Does Galileo, Bruno, Socrates, and Leary come to mind?
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He was seen with DOZENS of pigeons all over him in Central park numerous times.

A lot of people thought he was nuts but he loved pigeons and used to take care of the sick and injured ones.

Personally, I think Edison's and JP Morgans goons did him in.

I also think "The Tunguska event" in russia (claimed to be a asteroid hit) was possibly Teslas experiment(death ray) that went way too far..and scared Tesla to the bone at how horrible his amazing device could be used for nefarious purposes.

HAARP could be the end result to that insidious device.


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quote:
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He was seen with DOZENS of pigeons all over him in Central park numerous times.

A lot of people thought he was nuts but he loved pigeons and used to take care of the sick and injured ones.

Personally, I think Edison's and JP Morgans goons did him in.

I also think "The Tunguska event" in russia (claimed to be a asteroid hit) was possibly Teslas experiment(death ray) that went way too far..and scared Tesla to the bone at how horrible his amazing device could be used for nefarious purposes.

HAARP could bee the forrunner to that insidious device.



I agree. Edison was not quite the genius that the press made him out to be. Tesla was the main inventor behind the scenes. In fact, Edison used to torture animals with AC power to show how dangerous Tesla's invention was. It was WEstinghouse that supported Tesla.

Pidgeons are very sweet birds. We have three living in our back yard that have been there for close to 15 years.



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One can hardly discuss Tesla without a brief mention of his illegitimate stepson, Eastlund, father of HAARP..

WEATHER MODIFICATION WITH HIGH POWER ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIOTION

ESEC has recently completed a contract with the European Space Agency to review the weather modification potential of the HAARP facility in Alaska and to perform numerical simulations of tornado suppression with high power electromagnetic radiation produced with Solar Power Satellites. Two papers, available below, have been published. They are:

* SYSTEMS CONSIDERATIONS OF WEATHER MODIFICATION EXPERIMENTS USING HIGH POWER ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION, published in Proceedings of "Workshop on Space Exploration and Resources Exploitation-EXPLOSPACE," 20-22 October, 1998, Cagliari, Sardinia, Italy.

* MESOCYCLONE DIAGNOSTIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE THUNDERSTORM SOLAR POWER SATELLITE CONCEPT, Published in the Proceedings of "The Second Conference on the Applications of Remote Sensing and GIS for Disaster Management," January 19-21, 1999.

Some of the highlights contained in these reports are:

* HAARP
* MISSILE SHIELD ANTENNA (terrawatt phased array antenna)
* NORTH SLOPE GAS CONCEPT WEATHER MODIFICATION
* OZONE HOLE MITIGATION
* HIGH POWER SOLAR SATELLITES FOR WEATHER MODIFICATION
* POWER RELAY IONOSPHERIC MIRROS
* INTERVENTION IN TORNADOGENESIS
* SAFETY

http://www.eastlundscience.com/currentd.html
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PostMon Oct 24, 2005 3:01 am  Reply with quote  

Eep. Methinks there's a testosterone of mishap to be having.
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Methinks you're on your way out of here. Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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Eep. Methinks there's a testosterone of mishap to be having.


I thought I just heard an ESTROGEN fart.
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