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may41970


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Netvocates PostThu Jun 22, 2006 1:29 pm  Reply with quote  

"Basically, Netvocates is an organization that sends people out to web logs to post propaganda in comments. They appear to be tied to conservatives and there appears to be a tie to townhall.com, the ultra-right-wing web site."

http://agitprop.typepad.com/agitprop/2006/06/get_out_your_ti.html

http://www.netvocates.com/
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PostThu Jun 22, 2006 2:48 pm  Reply with quote  

Holy SMOKES this covert action group is right here in NH! I would LOVE to see thier client list.
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Disinformation PostThu Jun 22, 2006 3:47 pm  Reply with quote  

Quote: ""Basically, Netvocates is an organization that sends people out to web logs to post propaganda in comments.

Hmmmmmmmmm let's see now, who on CTC fits that discription? Wink
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PostThu Jun 22, 2006 5:05 pm  Reply with quote  

I love debate.
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FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe


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What if the debate is fake? PostWed Jun 28, 2006 5:16 am  Reply with quote  

The HuffingtonPost has recently lost a lot of credibility. It seems to be in denial and is poised for a big downfall. There's something called astroturfing there which appears to have been exposed by
http://peterrost.blogspot.com
HuffPost is also censoring decent posts, while allowing foul trolls to have free rein. It has turned into a rabbit hole.

It appears the troll you try to dialogue with could be from anywhere, including the sites you visit. Though I think most of fake posts come from Rendon type groups.

It makes one wonder about Arianna's old forum where there is that Halva- Jay Reynolds fakery. I think halva might be legit, but I don't want to read someone talking about Reynolds so much. Same as with the recent trolls emerging here. I'd like to see more intelligent dialogue about chemtrails.

By the way, does any one know how much it costs to run this site and some others and how much money do such places take in with revenue. Cause you see these megasites and semi big sites and it makes one wonder what is behind them, is there an agenda. Looks like HuffPo has made a fortune off of promoting fake debate between sincere people and fakes and I think HuffPo is in for a rude awakening if it doesn't clean out the riffraff.

Same here, if trolls and strawmen are too predominant, this place will lose its zeal, its edge, unless of course that is its agenda and "they" don't care. I really don't know, but I bet someone knows. Any thoughts will be appreciated. No one wants to waste their time writing if fakes are all over the place. At these sites, how much does it cost to run and how much revenue is brought in?
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may41970


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What if the Debate is Fake? PostThu Jun 29, 2006 12:55 pm  Reply with quote  

I'm starting to feel the same way as you do, FUI. The fact that this forum's moderator/administrator has not even warned "Spikey" is a real bad sign, IMO.

Real bad.

Do a Google search on "chemtrails" and this site is one of the first that shows up. Yet, the person/people who run it appear to make no effort whatsoever to maintain an adult level of discussion. (Further, the fact that this board has a "Channeling" forum doesn't add a lot for it's credibility, IMO.)

I fear that this post, or one of my future ones will get me banned, and that's a sad thing, because I've got nothing to gain by posting here. I have sneaking suspicion that the person/people behind this site refuse to tolerate criticism. Time will tell. And this saddens me because there's nothing I want more than to inform people that chemtrails have arrived in Taiwan. Something which nobody seems to be aware of.

I can only hope that the moderator responds to this post and explains why "Spikey" has not been banned; not even been warned. I can only hope that I'll be allowed to continue to post here. In the meantime, check this link out...

http://www.iamthewitness.com/by_Hufschmid11Oct2005.htm

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Re: What if the Debate is Fake? PostThu Jun 29, 2006 1:12 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by may41970
I'm starting to feel the same way as you do, FUI. The fact that this forum's moderator/administrator has not even warned "Spikey" is a real bad sign, IMO.

Real bad.

Do a Google search on "chemtrails" and this site is one of the first that shows up. Yet, the person/people who run it appear to make no effort whatsoever to maintain an adult level of discussion. (Further, the fact that this board has a "Channeling" forum doesn't add a lot for it's credibility, IMO.)

I fear that this post, or one of my future ones will get me banned, and that's a sad thing, because I've got nothing to gain by posting here. I have sneaking suspicion that the person/people behind this site refuse to tolerate criticism. Time will tell. And this saddens me because there's nothing I want more than to inform people that chemtrails have arrived in Taiwan. Something which nobody seems to be aware of.

I can only hope that the moderator responds to this post and explains why "Spikey" has not been banned; not even been warned. I can only hope that I'll be allowed to continue to post here. In the meantime, check this link out...

http://www.iamthewitness.com/by_Hufschmid11Oct2005.htm

May41970

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mmm if Spikey should be warned and/or banned according to you, is it not you who does not tollerate criticism?

Spikey is very critical, and when ever he post something based on SCIENCE FACT he gets flamed, while you expect him and me to accept anyclaims made by you and your peers not based on any real science but just on ground observations (many of which do not even corespond with what is presented by the makers of this as research)
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may41970


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Excerpts From Spikey's Posts PostThu Jun 29, 2006 2:38 pm  Reply with quote  

"Spikey is very critical, and when ever he post something based on SCIENCE FACT he gets flamed..."

-Mach_10

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"You are wasting your time with these inbreeds. They are not evolved enough to understand and reason."
- Spikey

"Over the last few days I have come to realise we as a human race are doomed, not by chemtrail conspiracies, but by allowing idiots like you lot to breed."
- Spikey

"You comments are very disturbing to me and you should be reported. When you believe your own paranoia and then go on to believe you should shoot down the enemy aircraft, its time for you to be locked up to protect the general population."
- Spikey

"Why won't you tell me your level of education? I think its because you all know you are all inbreed idiots living in trailer parks."
- Spikey

"We have a couple of pilots and a met man who don't believe, I bet the rest of you are either unemployed or pump fuel into cars."
- Spikey


"I am developing my own theory into chemtrails and i believe its very similar to UFO abductions. The lower the education, the more chance of believing Chemtrails, UFO and other conspiracies."
- Spikey


"Health issues can be caused by many things, more likely the crap burgers you americans like with lots of added crap in them."
- Spikey

"Your arguements are 90% emotion, eg. "look at this photo, what have the b*stards done to us?" type posts. No proof just paranoia."
- Spikey

"As a commercial pilot, we get loads of worried passengers with irrational fears. It is our job to explain everything and not to dismiss them. that is why i am here to save you lot from your ownselves."
- Spikey
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PostThu Jun 29, 2006 2:43 pm  Reply with quote  

The fact that i haven't been warned or banned maybe to do with the site admin allowing reasoned debate, I thank them for that. If they want to warn me for flaming others then I accept that and I apologise in advance.

As Mach_10 has stated, my arguements have been either based on scientific fact which gets me flamed or labled a dis-informer or I have posted agreeing that chembusters may work and may cause enviromental damage.

What disturbs me here is calls for bans, censorship and autocratic decision making when it comes to deciding who may speak. If you are truely worried about a new world order then you should look at yourselves and ask would a world under your rule be any better.

Not once have people like me and Mach_10 called for this site to be shut down, if either of us worked for a secret government and wanted this shut down we would do it by denial of service and not by posting messages.

Believe me when i say I want to help educate some of you, I hate the thought that some of you will end up spending your lives scared, living underground with a tin hat on with the sound of water flushing through 6 pipes in a bucket.

Free your minds and listen to reasoned debate, what are you scared of?
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PostThu Jun 29, 2006 3:34 pm  Reply with quote  

may41970

It might be wise to start at his first post and see the reaction on that, instead of looking at his latest posts

quote:
Originally posted by Spikey
As a commercial pilot I find your photos of parallel Chemtrails and shipping trails a laugh.

If any of you even thought of doing some simple thought experiment you may even work out what is going on yourselves.

Parallel Contrails
Parallel contrails exist due to commercial airline traffic flying along a 10 nautical mile wide airways (typically they all fly within 1/2 mile of the centre of it). Each aircraft is separated by air traffic control. Now given the winds at 30000feet (say, 50 knots) the original CONtrail will be blown away to the side by the time the next airliner passes, then those 2 Contrails will be blown by the wind and so on. Result= parallel contrails. Same for the shipping lanes.

Just look at a known 'CHEM'trail area and watch the airliners pass overhead in the SAME place each time BUT the contrails blow away with the strong winds.

Extra 'spraying' from aircraft
The extra contrails from some aircraft seen in photos are either, jettionising fuel, usually from the wing OR the auxcillary power unit in the tail of the airliner which is a small jet engine used for backup and startup power.

THINK FOR YOURSELEVES! THE ONLY BRAIN WASHING GOING ON ARE YOURSELVES.

I will be happy to explain any points you raise with technical proof as a commerical pilot, just ask. Very Happy


quote:
Originally posted by vinn
there is another "specialist" just like mister kevin martin or maybe thats him under code name Spikey?
on whos payroll are you buddy....come on lets hear it


quote:
Originally posted by dayglow76
If were crazy then just leave us alone. Theres no need in wasting your time and ours to convince us were insane.Also, I do know it's hard for someone of your supposed intelligence to accept the fact that you've been lied to your whole life. I have family members in the industry that know this is not a lie.


etc

START AT THE BEGINNING
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One can only do so much ignoring PostThu Jun 29, 2006 4:08 pm  Reply with quote  

Hi May, thanks for the response. I am trying to ignore them, but lately there is just too much of them, with their foul language/manners and their outrageously bad spelling. The worst is their inability to stay on topic and not derail threads. They don't seem to understand that no one here cares about what they are saying once their patterns become apparent. At first one is openminded, but then it becomes obvious that they are either trolls or paid trolls. I think you make a good point about wondering where the moderators are. I am really starting to lose interest in this site. I'm wondering how many new people or lurkers are out there who just don't want to get involved here because of all the crap being posted.
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PostThu Jun 29, 2006 4:30 pm  Reply with quote  

I may not agree with what you have to say but I defend your right to say it.

for better or for worse, that line is the basic pillar of democracy.

We have a choice and the choice is ours.

the best choice is the intelligent choice based on calm reflection.
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PostThu Jun 29, 2006 8:46 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe
Hi May, thanks for the response. I am trying to ignore them, but lately there is just too much of them, with their foul language/manners and their outrageously bad spelling. The worst is their inability to stay on topic and not derail threads. They don't seem to understand that no one here cares about what they are saying once their patterns become apparent. At first one is openminded, but then it becomes obvious that they are either trolls or paid trolls. I think you make a good point about wondering where the moderators are. I am really starting to lose interest in this site. I'm wondering how many new people or lurkers are out there who just don't want to get involved here because of all the crap being posted.


Damn FUI you're smart, you found us out.

Oke this is the story, Spikey and I work for a secret Dutch-Anglo-American government of which the Dutch politician (who was fakely murdered) Pim Fortyn is the head.

We get paid one Heineken for every post we place here, and an extra bonus Heineken if it pisses people off.

P.s. mister I hate outrageously bad spelling the word ‘openminded’ does not exist, it must be ‘open-minded’.
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Re: One can only do so much ignoring PostThu Jun 29, 2006 10:03 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe

I'm wondering how many new people or lurkers are out there who just don't want to get involved here because of all the crap being posted.


Bingo! Thats exactly what they want, for people to stop posting.

quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe
I think you make a good point about wondering where the moderators are. I am really starting to lose interest in this site.


are none from what I can tell. They all quit a few months ago.

Welcome to ChemTroll Central!

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Re: One can only do so much ignoring PostThu Jun 29, 2006 11:24 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by greenman
quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe

I'm wondering how many new people or lurkers are out there who just don't want to get involved here because of all the crap being posted.


Bingo! Thats exactly what they want, for people to stop posting.

Yes I agree. I was getting frustrated seeing their names all the time and wondering why they were able to keep on posting. I like how megasprayer doesn't allow any of that nonsense, yet it doesn't really have much dialogue going on, mostly articles and research on chemtrails. When I first started here some months ago it seemed a lot better. Lately it is getting annoying. Doesn't this website cost money to run? This doesn't add up to me.

quote:
Originally posted by FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe
I think you make a good point about wondering where the moderators are. I am really starting to lose interest in this site.


are none from what I can tell. They all quit a few months ago.

Welcome to ChemTroll Central!




That stinks, kind of like what is going on at Huffington Post, yet HuffPo also censors their blogposts while allowing the trolls to dominate the news and entertainment comments. It makes one really wonder what is up with the internet. I'm curious if the new poster admitting participation in chemtrail operations is legit. I guess time will tell, and if he is legit perhaps he could speak with Paul Moyer or someone. I hope if he is legit he will have the courage to help bring his testimony to the public.
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